If for example someone was constantly sending spam forms through our website, we could restrict their usage of our website.
Add a cooldown, or something like that. I donât think this is needed at all.
Is anything used mor malicious reasons? As this seems pretty fishy.
I know these might not be linked at all, but the fact your promoting explicit audios and collecting IPs for an unneeded reason is quite concerning.
Overall, I want to know where this data is going and all my details. I will be getting in touch further and I believe my friend @justhimnoah will be as-well with some things.
As stated in our privacy policy:
We will never disclose personal information unless: we are required to by law; it is shared with our advertising partners, security/analytics providers and/or other business partners.
We do comply with EU/UK laws and regulations (GDPR) when handling data that could potentially be classified as personal information. Anyone that wishes their data deleted will have their request honored.
(A further note: IP addresses are not personal information and are an identifier for devices. Therefore, we are exceeding security/privacy requirements.)
References (GDPR):
As I mentioned above, we do not promote explicit audio IDs. We simply make available and properly classify existing audio IDs on the Roblox platform.
I know that, but I just donât get the reason why you need them. Its unnecessary.
And, you share it with advertising partners?
If you would like to get in touch further, please contact me via a ticket in our Discord server or via email at muffin@muffinbrands.xyz
Okay, I get that you want everyone to have access to different things.
Then why have a section on it thats at the top?
We have all of our tags at the top, it simply makes things easier to sort through. With the explicit box unchecked and at least one other box checked, you will not be shown explicit audio IDs.
We donât share IP addresses with advertisers, but there may be other information we do share.
This reason seems fine to me. I still donât agree with listing the explicit audios though and I still donât get whatâs wrong with the default roblox library. 
Generally speaking, all websites (including the Cookie Forums) collect IP addresses, but itâs up to the site manager to decide what to do with them, if anything at all.
In the case of this IP collection statement, the IPs are only used " ⌠when you submit a form" for the purposes of " ⌠preventing fraudulent submissions and improving our service."
Iâd say this is completely valid, but I would definitely want some more disclosure on the âimproving our serviceâ part of this.
Ok
Mixing up with @yelnatsz, Iâll quickly want to know wby IP addresses are collected. Itâs also been stated that the site is not responsible for any data that is sold, so thatâs fishy because it means that youâll be (practically) selling IPâs away to unwanted people.
As said, you do not need to collect IP addresses, in the case you said about form raids, youâre able to add a slowmode on that.
I donât like how you can advertise âanythingâ for just 50 robux, and since itâs âanythingâ, 13+ may not be the most appropriate age for this.
Iâd like a reasoning on why you are not responsible for data loss, as youâre collecting it and it is your duty to make sure our data is secure. Do note that evidence about everything stated in the Privacy Policy, Terms of Service has been taken and could lead to serious consequences if no valid reasoning is given up.
Adding up, your website breaks the ToS of Roblox by promoting Explicit audio IDâs that are not allowed on the platform. You may be given issues from Roblox if they know about this.
I actually partially agree with this ⌠he has a valid reason for collecting IPs for form submissions (as it can help reduce spam), however what I find unclear is the last part of the ToS, where thereâs nothing specified for the âimproving the websiteâ part of it.
If we can have more clarifcation on that @Muffin that would be great!
Yes, that was what I was trying to say yesterday, but didnât get round to it.
âImproving the Websiteâ
This makes it sound like your getting payed for user details, then you can spend the income that you have earnt on so called âimprovingâ it.
On top of this, the fact that ROBLOX is primarily a game for kids we all know that the âexplicitâ audio IDs will me misused.
Also, explicit audios are not tolerated on ROBLOX, and will get deleted either way. So why include them?
âlegal guardian has given you permission to use our website and submit forms on it; and that you have read, understood, and agree to be bound by the terms of this Privacy Policy.â
With the amount of troll and explicit audios on the website (whilst there are some good ones), I donât think asking a parent/ guardian is even an option.
And, to finalize my statement I understand that you collect them to monitor they usage of your forms but surely you can add a cooldown.
And, the bit about you share data with other business partners is a bit of a red flag. If someone asked you to send all of our data to them for ÂŁ500 I think you would do so to make some quick cash.
Overall, I think you should remove the explicit audios as they are going to be used maliciously.
But that being said, your website does provide some amazing songs but I just think some things need to be altered to make it better.
And also, anyone can advertise anything?
Also, I see this website is handled and created by someone else called @jdc20181.
How do we know that they arenât maliciously using our data and selling it to third parties.
Okay, Iâm going to answer some of these questions on behalf of @Muffin. Because a couple of them are a little sillyâŚ
Itâs very clearly listed on the ToS: We collect this data for the sole purposes of preventing fraudulent submissions and improving our service.
Itâs very easy for people to spam a website, even if he did add rate liming (cooldowns) he would still have to use your IP.
Up to him what he advertises, Iâm going to be blunt, when they say âanythingâ theyâre obviously not saying that you can advertise your NSFW website or something (not like many people would on a roblox audio website), they know what they can advertise.
I think you misunderstand what AudioFindr Roblox will not be liable for any consequential, indirect, or special loss or damage arising under these Terms or in connection with the Website. means. He is simply protecting himself, sure if there was malpractice he would still be in the wrong, heck take a look at the Roblox Liability page, you might pass outâŚ
Sure, but I donât think it will happen and if it did I doubt anybody is going to be suingâŚ
This is true.
Improving the website by preventing spam.
No it doesnât.
This i true.
Doesnât matter, itâs a tos, not a guidebook.
Itâs a little more complicated then that.
Iâm not speaking on behalf @Muffin nor am I a lawyer nor do I even like the website idea, but Iâm just trying to point out the obvious.
I think if you want to continue to discuss this you should create a Debates.
3 Likes
I 100% agree - I donât think the TOS is much of an issue since it all seems quite valid. Almost every websiteâs Terms of Service are like this, and Iâm guessing a TOS Generator made this, so it most likely doesnât know what the website needs, itâs simply trying to protect the user as much as possible.